MeetFighters News

Wow, has it really been 6 years? (Yes it has.)

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Where are we now?

I think this is pretty cool for a site that is a hobby project of a few dedicated people. Big thanks to supporters, translators, donors and everyone who helped spread the word.

Special thanks goes to:

  • ikf, our longest-standing site supporter. Your help and advice is invaluable and I thank you for all the assistance and encouragement!
  • toughwrestler, who amassed 300 past opponents in his 6 years with us. Wow. That's one new guy every week.
  • wrestler2000, the guy who donated most to the site. Thank you! Those servers didn't commission themselves...
  • MCRLON23UK, our resident fake profile detector.
  • ladron fr and tapout, our most active translators, keeping up site's polyglot mojo alive.
  • And all my other helpers and supporters. You know who you are. I love you guys :D

There are some new features to celebrate the occasion:

New ideas are welcome!

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Last edited on 11/30/2014 1:07 PM by Admin; 4 comment(s)
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Hello everyone,

The votes are in for our poll on commercial activity on MeetFighters.

Votes % of votes Weighted %
Disallow all commercial activity, including profile text, private messages, forums, blogs, etc. 487 29% 27%
Keep the "Classifieds" forum for the trade of small personal items. 328 19% 21%
Allow offers of commercial activity in private messages. 225 13% 15%
Allow offers of commercial activity in profile text. 200 12% 12%
Allow offers of commercial activity in blogs and forums. 196 11% 12%
Allow companies to register and promote their products on the site. 157 9% 8%
Allow everything. Capitalism ahoy! 63 3% 3%

It is a somewhat mixed bag. The highest score goes to disallowing all commercial activity, with keeping the "Classifieds" forum in second place. Third place goes to allowing commercial activity in private messages. The first three places combined yield 63% of the weighted votes.

I am drawing the following conclusion: Commercial activity on MeetFighters shall be limited to the "Classifieds" forum and private messages. This means that no commercial activity will be allowed in other public areas of the site, including profile text, blog posts, forums, groups, etc. This policy is not, in fact, far from what is already in the site's Terms of Service. I have updated the Terms to make the limits more explicit:

Previous text of Terms of Service:

§4 Advertising on our pages is forbidden without the express permission of the site administrators.
Updated Terms of Service:
§4 Advertising on our pages is forbidden without the express permission of the site administrators.
§4.1 It is forbidden to place advertisement for goods or services in any of the public areas of the site, including but not limited to:Your blog, your profile text, recommendations, forums, match requests and the public chat area.
§4.2 Bulk unsolicited offers of goods and services by private messages is forbidden.
§4.3 Members are permitted to post offers to buy or sell small personal items on the "Classifieds" forum.

While on the topic of changing the Terms of Service, I have added the following verbiage:

DISCLAIMER OF WARRANTY: TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT PERMITTED BY APPLICABLE LAW, MEETFIGHTERS IS PROVIDED "AS IS" WITHOUT WARRANTIES, CONDITIONS, REPRESENTATIONS OR GUARANTIES OF ANY KIND. MeetFighters.com is not a public utility and we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone for any or no reason.
LIMITATION OF LIABILITY: TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT PERMITTED BY APPLICABLE LAW, IN NO EVENT AND UNDER NO LEGAL THEORY SHALL MEETFIGHTERS OR ANY OTHER PERSON WHO HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THE CREATION, PRODUCTION, OR DELIVERY OF MEETFIGHTERS.COM BE LIABLE TO YOU OR ANY OTHER PERSON FOR ANY DAMAGES ARISING OUT OF THE USE OF OR INABILITY TO USE THE SERVICE.

I hate this sort of text. I really do. It's ugly, unfriendly, unseemly and on some level against the spirit of the world wide web. Unfortunately recent events have proven that it is indeed necessary. I hate the person who has forced me to do this.

As always, the changes of the Terms of Service are now in effect. Your continued use of the site serves as an implicit acceptance of the new terms. Blah-blah-blah. Members who now have commercial stuff on their profiles or blogs get a 1-month grace period to clean up.


On a brighter note, I am working on a new feature called Fightopedia, which is designed to be a wiki for MeetFighters members. As always, your ideas are welcome.

Also, the first Monthly Surgery with Admin is this Sunday (31st of August) at 21:00 UTC. Go to the Chat page, it will show you the time according to your local time zone.

Admin out.

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Last edited on 8/31/2014 3:27 PM by Admin; 24 comment(s)
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Dear members,

From the very start, the creator of MeetFighters envisioned the site as a non-commercial project. The mission of the site was creating a personals site where the main purpose is allowing people interested in fighting to meet. I took over the site with the promise of keeping the site true to its original purpose.

What is wrong with commercial interest? Nothing in principle. Our societies are largely built on "enlightened self-interest", aren't they? On the other hand, too much of it can compromise the original mission of the site. We could put up huge banner ads. We could make deals with video production companies. We could limit what functionality is available for free, keeping basic features locked away behind a paywall. We don't do any of these things. We are not raking in the dough, because we believe that doing so would compromise our goal. Donations keep the site afloat, for which we are grateful to our membership. You guys rule! :)

So, our site's mission is not being compromised by commercial interest on our part. But what about commercial interests of others?

We just had an incident in which our site, a free, non-commercial project, was threatened with litigation by a company that was using our site (for free) to promote certain events and services and were claiming that we were interfering with their business. Some profiles were deleted. We are not at the liberty to disclose any details.

We maintain that the site's purpose is allowing fighters to meet. By its nature, the site is for personal, non-commercial use. My question to the community is this: What shall we do about commercial use? Up until now, we have taken a "live and let live" approach and allowed people to link to their commercial homepages, promote commercial events, offer paid services, etc. We have seen no harm being done to our site and figured that some of our community might find these services useful. So, why not? This is why. We don't want to be sued. We are not set up as facilitators of other people's business and have no interest in it anyhow. We certainly do not have the capacity to deal with the fallout.

(On a related note, the Events page is removed until further notice.)

Open question to all members: what are your thoughts on this? Your votes (multiple choice) and comments are welcome.

Allow commercial activity on MeetFighters?

This poll is closed.
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Last edited on 8/02/2015 9:33 PM by Admin; 71 comment(s)
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Dear Fighters,

I am happy to announce that the new site engine is now live, and seems to be functioning OK.

I would like to thank everyone who participated in the beta testing for more than 10 minutes. Still, some bugs surely remain, and I am fixing them as they are reported. The good news is that the new engine has a lot of new features:

  • Tracker/2014-02-09: "Searching the database." Going back in the browser history to the search result list will not clear the list.
  • Tracker/2014-01-13: Recommendations are prettier, looking like speech bubbles. This makes it clearer who is recommending whom (or not).
  • Tracker/2013-07-22 2: Profiles are limited to 10 photos (20 for donating members). This helps profiles load faster and saves bandwidth for mobile users. Nothing of value is lost: photos over the limit simply spill over to the gallery, only one click away.
  • Tracker/2013-04-10: "Abuse flags should be more clear about their direction". Recommendations are now color coded for your convenience. (Apologies to the colorblind.)
  • Tracker/2013-04-08 2: "Meetings don't move in calendar". The meeting feature received a few bugfixes and will hopefully be easier to use.
  • Tracker/2013-01-01 4: It is now possible to attach multiple photos to a message. You can upload them or select them from your uploaded photos.
  • Tracker/2012-12-09: The mobile version of the site received a bunch of improvements, including a better layout and menu system.
  • Tracker/2012-12-07: Searching is improved in many ways. There is a "simple" search form for quick queries.
  • Tracker/2012-10-12 3: "Search for keywords". You can enter a keyword to search for, either using the search field on the top of the page, or going to the search page.
  • Easier previews and editing help for profile introductions, comments, blog entries, etc.
  • Text formatting rules are a bit easier.

Internally, the code received a lot of cleanup and polish. Hopefully this huge undertaking will help keep the site fresh and useful for everybody.

In unrelated news, it was reported that our friendly rival site, GlobalFight was victim of a rather severe hack. It is recommended to change your password immediately if you are using the same password here as you do on GF.

Happy wrestling,
Admin.

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Last edited on 5/03/2014 5:16 PM by Admin; 0 comment(s)
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Hello everyone,

I am working on the next version of the site engine. It's going to be great: faster and more versatile than the present one. It will feature a much improved search engine, it will allow multiple attachments in messages, it will make shoes for orphans! (OK, that last one is not true.)

This is a request to "senior" site members, who know the site inside and out, to try the new site and report any bugs that you find. Apply with management here!

On an unrelated note, Happy Easter!

Admin

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Last edited on 4/20/2014 5:04 PM by Admin; 1 comment(s)
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